Monika: Looking back, how do you see the progress that has been made through lobbying in the past decades?
  Brenda: I believe strongly that the progress that the transgender community has made in the last 5 years has been the result of growing efforts over the last 25 or more years. We must use our lived experience to lobby for change, because it does not happen by itself. We expect Victoria to introduce new birth certificate laws this year, and this has been in the pipeline for more than 10 years and near the top of my agenda for the last 6 years. It shows that while legal reforms are slow, persistence pays off and can bring about real transformation.
  Monika: Do you think transgender and gender diverse people can play a unique role in politics and social change? 
  Brenda: There is a vital role for transgender people in the fight for equality and equity. If we want to influence and shape change, we must step up and be involved. We need to fight for change to be done with us and not to us. There is nothing like lived experience to inform and educate, and when leveraged effectively, it can truly help to drive lasting change.
  Monika: How would you describe your relationship with fashion, and what kinds of outfits do you enjoy wearing? Do you tend to follow designers or trends, or do you prefer a more personal approach to style?
  Brenda: When working I had a largely classic business wardrobe. I do not want my message distracted by my clothes, so I dress as best as I can in an age-appropriate way. Comfort and professionalism matter to me more than fashion trends, and I like to keep things simple and dignified.
  Monika: What are your thoughts on transgender beauty pageants, given that some activists criticize them for promoting an obsession with youth and physical appearance?
  Brenda: I have never been a great fan of beauty pageants, regardless of those involved. I feel they can create unrealistic expectations and limit how people see themselves, even though I understand why some find empowerment in them.
  Monika: How important has love been in your life, and what role has it played throughout your journey?
  Brenda: I have been very lucky with the person I married nearly 44 years ago. We have been and still are each other’s best friends, always there emotionally for one another. Our relationship has changed and we now sleep in separate bedrooms, but that does not stop us from loving each other and doing as much as we can for one another. The foundation of our bond has always been mutual respect and genuine care, and that continues to keep us close.
  Monika: What are some of the things that bring you and Janice joy in your relationship today?
  Brenda: Janice is an artist and we share many similar and different interests. We are comfortable doing some things together, such as traveling, attending the orchestra and ballet, and pursuing our dream of helping to build a successful cohousing community, while also enjoying activities separately. We have common friends as well as individual ones, and the balance between shared and independent lives makes our partnership even stronger. We have a lovely partnership that continues to grow and evolve in meaningful ways.
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| Interview for Deep Trans in 2016 (YouTube) | 
  Monika: Many transgender women choose to write memoirs about their experiences. Have you ever considered writing a book about your own life and journey?
  Brenda: Yes and no. I have been open about my life and have probably shared most of the things I want to say. At the moment, I am too busy being an activist, and it is a great time to be advocating for change, which I really enjoy. I feel that through my activism, I am already telling my story and making a difference in ways that a book alone might not achieve.
  Monika: Are you currently involved in any new projects or initiatives?
  Brenda: My main focus at the moment is working with the current Government in Victoria, where Melbourne is the largest city, because they are so supportive and genuine in trying to achieve equality and equity for all LGBTI people. The appointment of transgender individuals to the role of Gender and Sexuality Commissioner and my position as co-chair of the LGBTI Taskforce show a particular commitment to supporting the transgender community. I am excited to be part of efforts that can bring lasting change and visibility to our issues. 
  Monika: Are there any other projects you are dedicating your time to alongside that work?
  Brenda: I have recently been appointed to another Government task force focused on mental health, and I am working with colleagues and the Government to ensure a more appropriate allocation of funds to address mental health issues across the LGBTI community, particularly for transgender people. It is rewarding to see how strategic planning and collaboration can create meaningful improvements in people’s lives.
  Monika: What advice would you give to transgender people who are struggling with gender dysphoria?
  Brenda: I would say it is important to find the right emotional and psychological support and to connect with your community. We all need help to work through the challenges of gender dysphoria, and it is much safer and easier if you have the right support. In Victoria, there is a growing number of support groups, and there is a strong presence on social media platforms like Facebook. Finding people who understand your journey can make a significant difference in your wellbeing.
  Monika: How should someone go about finding professional help for these challenges?
  Brenda: There is a growing number of experienced professional providers, and it is a matter of finding one that suits where you are in your journey. It is essential to seek guidance tailored to your individual needs as you work through the impact of gender dysphoria on your life. The right professional support can help clarify your options and empower you to make life-changing decisions. 
  Monika: What advice would you give about the pace of transitioning?
  Brenda: My biggest message to transgender people is to slow down the transition process if you want to maintain relationships with family and friends. Transition is something most of us have thought about for a long time, but those around us often have had little exposure to it, and it takes time for them to absorb and accept. Being patient can prevent unnecessary misunderstandings and help you preserve important connections.
  Monika: How should transgender people approach family and friends during this process?
  Brenda: Many people will genuinely try to understand, but it is important to give them time and space if they are important to you. It is almost impossible to predict exactly how family and friends will react, and often their response is the opposite of what you might expect. Treating them with dignity and respect increases the likelihood that they will treat you with dignity and respect in return, which can make the transition process smoother and more supportive.
  Monika: Brenda, thank you for the interview!
  END OF PART 2
  All photos: courtesy of Brenda Appleton.
  © 2016 - Monika Kowalska


 
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