Tuesday, January 27, 2015

Interview with Estelle Roedrer

Estelle

Estelle Roedrer is a French cabaret artist, singer, dancer, and beauty pageant queen whose life and career have been marked by movement, creativity, and an unwavering commitment to being herself. Over the years, she has performed in cabarets across Germany, Spain, Egypt, and France, building a reputation for her versatility, charm, and the passion she brings to every stage. Whether performing as a classic cabaret artist, a bold impersonator, or in more provocative roles, Estelle has always approached her craft with authenticity, creating shows that reflect both her talent and her individuality. Beyond her work in cabaret, Estelle has also taken part in international transgender beauty pageants, including the Miss International Queen contest in Thailand.
 
While she admits she is far from a pageant enthusiast, these experiences allowed her to meet remarkable people from around the world and gain a broader perspective on life, beauty, and self-expression. True to her nature, she has never followed anyone else’s path or relied on role models, preferring instead to carve out her own journey, guided by honesty, self-awareness, and a desire to live fully in the present. Estelle’s story is one of courage, independence, and the simple joy of embracing life as it comes. She speaks candidly about her transition, her encounters with love, and the realities faced by transgender women, all while maintaining a grounded, unpretentious outlook. In this interview, she shares not only her artistic journey and achievements but also her reflections on authenticity, freedom, and the art of living unapologetically as oneself, showing that for her, the stage is not just a career, it is a place where she is fully, unmistakably alive.
 
Monika: Today I’m so excited to sit down with Estelle Roedrer, the incredible French cabaret artist, singer, dancer, and beauty pageant queen. Hello, Estelle! How are you feeling today?
Estelle: Hello Monika! Thank you so much for keeping in touch. I feel really happy and honored to be here, it’s always a pleasure to talk about my journey and my work. I’m excited to share a bit of my life with you and your readers.
Monika: Estelle, you look absolutely radiant! I have to ask, what’s the secret behind your seemingly timeless beauty? Or is it just effortless charm?
Estelle: Thank you! Honestly, I don’t really know… maybe it’s the simple, natural life I try to live. I focus on taking care of myself without obsessing over it, and I think that makes a difference. Happiness and peace also show on your face, don’t you think?
Monika: Could you share a little about yourself for those who are just discovering you? Your life sounds full of adventure!
Estelle: I’ll be turning 42 soon, time really flies! I’ve worked in cabarets for most of my adult life, and I’ve lived in several countries: Germany, Spain, and Egypt. Eventually, I decided to come back to France, and I’ve been happily settled here for the past 11 years. Each place taught me something new about life and myself, and I treasure those experiences deeply.
 
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Courtesy of Estelle Roedrer.
 
Monika: Did you ever make a conscious choice to become a cabaret artist, or did it happen naturally? How did you realize this was your path?
Estelle: I think I never really “decided” to be a cabaret artist, it just is who I am. I’ve been lucky enough to make a living from it, which not every performer can do, since many have to work additional jobs. The stage feels like home to me, and performing has always been a way to express myself completely.
Monika: You work for Cabaret La Belle Etoile in La Celle-sur-Loire, which is a bit far from Paris, isn’t it? How did you end up there?
Estelle: No, it’s not close, about two hours from Paris. I left Paris for love ten years ago, thinking I could change who I was for someone I loved. But I was wrong. You can’t change your true self deep down. Still, trying helped me understand myself better and grow as a person. That period taught me a lot about the importance of staying true to yourself, no matter what.
I started my career in Paris at the Carrousel de Paris, then moved to Germany for four years, performing in Pulvervass in Hamburg, Alcazar in Hanover, Paradise in Nuremberg, and Chez Nous in Berlin. After that, I spent two years as a model in Cairo, Egypt. I came back to France in 2004 and have since created all my shows myself, sometimes performing, sometimes as a stripper or impersonator, it all depends on the cabaret’s needs. Each experience shaped my artistic vision and gave me a unique perspective on performance.
Monika: Today, is it harder to find work in cabarets than before? What’s changed?
Estelle: Yes, I think it is. People are bored more easily now, and they don’t spend money like they used to, so fewer attend cabarets. Many venues have closed one after another, leaving less space for new performers. But for those who love it, like me, the stage is still an irreplaceable place, and we adapt however we can. Passion keeps the cabaret alive even when times are tough.
Monika: Have you ever considered acting in theater or films, or has cabaret always been your main focus?
Estelle: I’ve had many opportunities, but my private life took priority at the time, so I turned them down. Cabaret gave me everything I needed creatively, and I didn’t feel the need to pursue other paths. Still, I always keep an open mind, maybe one day the right project will come along that excites me.
Monika: How do you feel about transgender stories and characters we see in films, books, or the media today? Do they reflect reality, or do you see a gap?
Estelle: Honestly, I don’t really focus on that. As I’ve said, I lead a simple life and don’t feel the need to prove anything. I perform because I love being on stage, as a woman now and as a man before. Fame isn’t important to me. What matters most is expressing myself authentically, and that’s what gives me joy every day.
 
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Miss International Queen pageant.
Courtesy of Estelle Roedrer.
 
Monika: You’ve also taken part in transgender beauty pageants. In 2010 and 2011, you participated in Miss International Queen in Thailand, one of the most prestigious pageants for transgender women. How do you remember those experiences?
Estelle: Yes! It was a wonderful experience, even though I’m not really into pageants. I’m far removed from all that competition. I know who I am and don’t need to be “the most beautiful woman.” But I met so many lovely girls there, and yes, some not so lovely! (laughs) Those experiences reminded me that authenticity and kindness always shine brighter than titles or crowns.
Monika: What was the atmosphere like among the contestants at Miss International Queen? Were you able to make friends, or was it more competitive?
Estelle: The first year was wonderful. There was a very friendly and supportive atmosphere among all the girls. The second year felt different, many were there purely to win, not for fun. When egos are too strong, I don’t feel comfortable. Still, I learned a lot about people, competition, and the importance of staying true to yourself in any environment.
Monika: Have you participated in any other transgender beauty pageants?
Estelle: Yes, in 2001 I took part in a pageant at Pacha Club in Ibiza. I became the first, and, amusingly, the last, Queen there. It was a unique experience that I still remember fondly. It taught me that even small victories can leave lasting memories.
Monika: At the time of your transition, did you have any transgender role models to guide or inspire you?
Estelle: Never, ever! I’ve always followed my own path. I’m unique, as everyone is, and no one could be my model. If you try to copy someone else, you end up losing yourself, and I didn’t want that. I just wanted to be me, and that’s enough! I believe everyone’s journey is personal, and finding your own way is the most empowering thing you can do.
Monika: What was the hardest part about coming out?
Estelle: The hardest part at first was with my family. They couldn’t distinguish between being gay and being transgender, which is completely different! Many people confuse the two, and it can be very frustrating. Transgender is not a sexual orientation; you can be transgender and straight, bi, or gay. But now, after all these years, they accept me for who I am and love me because I’m honest about what I want and what I do. For them, my authenticity is a kind of success, and that makes me very grateful every day.
Monika: How do you see the situation for transgender women in French society today?
Estelle: The issue is complicated. We need to talk about it, but many transgender women, including me, prefer a simple, discreet life. Many people assume that being transgender means you must engage in sex work, which is not true at all, there are very few choices, and stereotypes are damaging. For example, in Thailand, transgender women can work in almost any job, yet they can never fully change their ID papers, even after transition. In France, after completing your transition, you get a new ID, but achieving what people consider a “normal” life or career is still extremely challenging. Awareness and understanding are improving slowly, but there’s still so much work to be done.

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Courtesy of Estelle Roedrer.

Monika: Are you involved in politics at all? Do you participate in lobbying campaigns, or do you think transgender women can make a real difference in the political arena?
Estelle: I’ve never taken part in lobbying or anything like that. To me, it feels a bit like a “ghetto,” and I don’t want that. I prefer to live among everyone, meet friends, go to parties, go shopping, simply be myself, not “because I’m transgender.” Life is richer when you focus on living fully rather than fitting into a label. Politics can be important, but my way of contributing is through daily authenticity and human connection.
Monika: How important is love in your life? What role does it play for you?
Estelle: Love has so many forms, and every kind of love is valuable. Giving, receiving, and sharing love are all equally important. It’s what gives life warmth and meaning, and it’s one of the things that keeps me grounded every day.
Monika: You have such a perfect figure! What’s your secret to staying so slim? :)
Estelle: Many people probably think I’ve had plastic surgery, but I was born like this! I have a straight twin brother, and he has the same face as me, that’s my best proof. Honestly, it bores me to say, “I don’t do anything.” People can think what they want… and I’m not really that slim! (laughs) I focus on enjoying life and being happy, and I think that makes a bigger difference than dieting or exercise alone.
Monika: Many transgender women write memoirs. Have you ever considered writing a book yourself?
Estelle: It’s funny, yes, I have! But not because I’m transgender. Right now, I’m writing a book about my trip to India. I don’t feel the need to explain why or how I became who I am. Writing helps me reflect on my experiences, and I hope it might inspire readers to embrace adventure in their own lives.
Monika: What are your plans for the near future, and where do you see yourself in the next five to seven years?
Estelle: Houhouuuuu! Honestly, no idea! I just live in the present, and that’s really enough for me. I try to enjoy each moment as it comes, and trust that the future will unfold in its own way. Life is unpredictable, and that’s part of its magic.
Monika: Finally, what advice would you give to transgender girls who dream of a career like yours?
Estelle: Good luck! If you truly believe in your dreams, they can come true. I always say you can have everything you want in life, but not all at once, and sometimes not exactly as you imagined. But life always gives you what’s best for you, even if it doesn’t feel like it at first. Be patient, stay authentic, and trust your journey, it’s your unique path that makes life beautiful.
Monika: Estelle, thank you for the interview! Merci beaucoup!
Estelle: Thanks to you!

All the photos: courtesy of Estelle Roedrer.
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